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In any case, not even the writings of the alleged 2nd century Justin mention anything about any details of Marcion, his followers or his writings or Christian texts although they both are said to have been in Rome at the same time. There is nothing that survives of Marcion at all, so all discussion ...

Thank you. But you should note that my posting on the matter of Irenaeus was made before things deteriorated when I was the subject of an argumentum ad hominem attack by Mr. Huller.

[quote=""Toto""]A digression into personal bickering has been split and locked.[/quote]

Thank you.

[quote=""Toto""]A digression into personal bickering has been split and locked.[/quote]

How reliable can it be when ALL information provided about such persons is derived solely from one source with an agenda, namely the Church itself?? [quote=""MrMacSon""]How reliable or true is the information about these characters: Irenaeus, Polycarp, Ignatius, Justin Martyr, et...

Aa, what is your take on a supposed text by Julian referring specifically to "Galileans" as it describes "Christians"?? Of course describing them as "Galileans" is easy, but as you suggest there is no history of the term used to refer to the Christians in any of their o...

Still doesn't make sense. One would assume the term Christian to be innocuous especially since Romans wouldn't care about the distinctions on the names of this group. [quote=""Toto""] Why would Julian, who followed "Christian" emperors who had a canon of NT texts in han...

Why would Julian, who followed "Christian" emperors who had a canon of NT texts in hand have referred Christians as Galilaeans when the Romans who affiliated with the religion rejected by Julian were called Christians, and the term was used allegedly since the "old days" back in ...

I guess you forgot.......WHO were the fellows who established the NT canon for the religion well before the appearance of the Constantine bible? [quote=""stephan huller""]The hilarious part about these ridiculous arguments is that they presuppose a 'conspiracy' among modern schol...

Please tell us who ancient apologists identified as the Christian body that established the Christian canon before the 50 bibles of Constantine, and what allegedly happened between the 30 or so year time period between Justin and Iranaeus which established the set of books of the canon. [quote="...

In a number of cases you assume that the text not mentioning Paul had been an original Christian document, whereas it is more likely to have been a non Christian tract that was simply adopted and adapted by Christians. They also didn't mention other Christian personages either. In the case of Justin...