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by Toto
Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:13 am
Forum: History of Abrahamic Religions & Related Texts
Topic: Historical Jesus scholarship
Replies: 54
Views: 822

[quote=""outhouse""] Why is it not correct? Neither Crossan nor Borg are trained historians. What evidence you they use to conclude that there was a historical Jesus? Do you even know what the definition of a historian is? Or the definition of a scholar?[/QUOTE] Yes I do. Do you ...
by Toto
Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:05 pm
Forum: History of Abrahamic Religions & Related Texts
Topic: Historical Jesus scholarship
Replies: 54
Views: 822

[quote=""outhouse""]
Robert Tulip;7559513 wrote: Crossan and Borg believe in the Historical Jesus. That is apologetic bias.
That is not correct[/QUOTE]

Why is it not correct?

Neither Crossan nor Borg are trained historians. What evidence you they use to conclude that there was a historical Jesus?
by Toto
Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:04 pm
Forum: History of Abrahamic Religions & Related Texts
Topic: Bill O'Reilly's Killing Jesus
Replies: 42
Views: 818

Candida Moss as a guest on Bill O.

At the very end, like a gentleman, Bill O'Reilly gives Candida Moss the last word. And she zings him a good one.
by Toto
Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:24 am
Forum: History of Abrahamic Religions & Related Texts
Topic: Historical Jesus scholarship
Replies: 54
Views: 822

[quote=""aa5874""] Ehrman teaches large classes of undergraduates in a southern state. Most of them will not go on to become Biblical scholars. Logically, if most students are Bible believing Christians then it is still most probable that those who go on to be Bible Scholars woul...
by Toto
Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:16 am
Forum: History of Abrahamic Religions & Related Texts
Topic: RM Price 2009 review of David Trobisch's "First Edition of the New Testament"
Replies: 30
Views: 379

Price refers to the Apostolicon as the Marcionite Sputnik, because it had the same effect on the proto-catholic church as the Russian Sputnik did on the US - it spurred them into action to produce their own canon of Christian, non-Jewish scripture.
by Toto
Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:07 am
Forum: History of Abrahamic Religions & Related Texts
Topic: Historical Jesus scholarship
Replies: 54
Views: 822

[quote=""aa5874""]In "Did Jesus Exist?" chapter 8 page 267 Ehrman admitted that almost all his students are Bible believing Christians. Such an admission must mean that most Scholars will be Bible believing Christians. ...[/quote] Ehrman teaches large classes of undergr...
by Toto
Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:06 am
Forum: History of Abrahamic Religions & Related Texts
Topic: Historical Jesus scholarship
Replies: 54
Views: 822

[quote=""angelo atheist""]Robert Price comes to mind as a non chistian trained historian.[/quote]

Price was trained as a Christian. He has a PhD in systematic theology and another in New Testament studies.
by Toto
Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:24 am
Forum: History of Abrahamic Religions & Related Texts
Topic: How secure is the terminus ad quem chronology of Dura Fragment 24? [Mass C14 phobia?]
Replies: 250
Views: 1848

So are there any more baseless objections you can raise?

Are you prepared to say you have been wrong all this time, that Christianity was not invented by Constantine and the gospels were not composed in Eusebius' scriptorium?
by Toto
Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:54 am
Forum: History of Abrahamic Religions & Related Texts
Topic: How secure is the terminus ad quem chronology of Dura Fragment 24? [Mass C14 phobia?]
Replies: 250
Views: 1848

[quote=""mountainman""] Stop changing the subject. You are claiming some motive on Kraeling's part to make this papyrus fragment Christian. I say there is none. I claimed that Kraeling knew that "Dura Parchment 24 was extremely unique, because it offered a method of dating (...
by Toto
Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:18 am
Forum: History of Abrahamic Religions & Related Texts
Topic: How secure is the terminus ad quem chronology of Dura Fragment 24? [Mass C14 phobia?]
Replies: 250
Views: 1848

OK, OK - how about 99%?

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