For James Still - proof of deception by the NAS!!

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James,

Two schools of thought demands’ clarity by the initiator in order to explicate an exact position whereas no doubt about the position held is possible. The conventions in use by philosophy have confused readers to the extent, if you read Kant, I read Kant, we will not agree on what Kant is telling us. I opted many years ago to distinguish ideas by explicit means in an attempt to step over the mud and go straight for dry ground, and that is what I have done with establishing difference between abstract necessity, and true or real necessity. It took me a while before deciding on calling them logical, and arbitrary. With that in mind, it is apparent that philosophy is failing the masses because philosophers have allowed science to transcend the boundary of teleological purpose through naturalistic materialism. Think about it – for what is happening all about you, everywhere, are problems never before faced by any society or culture, but the problems are not being resolved. Why? Because of the modernists’ attitude of further separating the individual from the reality of their being, and it is happening because society has allowed it do so through complacency.

Sorry, I could have given you the page number because I did not copy the quote off the web. Modal logic is precisely where I wanted to go with this since the potential plural use of necessity is exactly the modality that precipitates dualistic tendency of naturalistic materialism. I accept the premise that abstract conceptualized thoughts are valid and have a place in reality if they are used properly; i.e., tools that people use to organize their lives, but people must remember, such things are not “logically necessary.”

Today, the two science fields of physical anthropology and paleontology are still guilty of promoting facts that have not been substantiated; sadly, this has been going on now for more than one-hundred years. The repercussions of such deceit are now being observed among several generations of people, mostly under the age of thirty-five years who have no respect for life, or the significance of it in the reality of human existence. This is not a moral issue; it is a societal issue that will only be overcome when the dualist problem of naturalistic materialism is faced head on by people who are tired of an educational system that is nearly out of control.

I have no desire for religion or the belief in God to be taught in public classrooms, and if people so want their children taught that way, sobeit, and they can provide private schooling to accomplish the task. As a taxpayer, I expect all children that attend public schools to be taught the “truth,” for when you teach the truth, and someone develops a new theory, it does not take decades of years before people begin to test the theory.

Within the next five years molecular biology will possess enough information to establish a new “theory” of human existence, a theory fully grounded in science, but it will be rejected by academia. If molecular biology can prove evolution occurs per Darwin’s theory, sobeit, and I will accept the evidence. The evidence I reject is the type as presented to the public most often without any specific reference of where the evidence is located. Follows is a citation taken from an organization in Kansas called, “Kansas Citizens for Science,” but the information is not from them, it is from the “National Academy of Science,” for when you click the links that is the website accessed. Link follows - http://www.kcfs.org/

“So many intermediate forms have been discovered between fish and amphibians, between amphibians and reptiles, between reptiles and mammals, and along the primate lines of descent that it often is difficult to identify categorically when the transition occurs from one to another particular species. Actually, nearly all fossils can be regarded as intermediates in some sense; they are life forms that come between the forms that preceded them and those that followed.

The fossil record thus provides consistent evidence of systematic change through time--of descent with modification. From this huge body of evidence, it can be predicted that no reversals will be found in future paleontological studies. That is, amphibians will not appear before fishes, nor mammals before reptiles, and no complex life will occur in the geological record before the oldest eucaryotic cells. This prediction has been upheld by the evidence that has accumulated until now: no reversals have been found.”

No place in any of the information I accessed on either website was there any information of where the evidence as “claimed” to exist is located. Does that sound reasonable to you, it does not to me; and, when I challenged the National Academy of Science to send me a list of where any of the “intermediate fossils” are on display, I was advised, “They are much too valuable to put on public display.” Say what?

Recent science texts such as written by, Sylvia Mader, Biology, Sixth Edition (Boston: WCB/McGraw-Hill, 1998). ISBN 0-697-34080- 5 still contain perpetrated fraud that is being taught in the classroom nationwide. Instead of using Ernst Haeckel’s corrupt and fraudulent drawings the author used real photographs, but carefully selected those, which best fits Darwin’s theory. She failed to mention earlier embryonic stages are dissimilar; instead, the author claims that early similarities in vertebrate embryos are evidence for common ancestry and Darwinian evolution; she explicitly identifies pharyngeal pouches as "gill slits."

Follows is a quote taken directly from the National Academy of Science; the URL comes after the quotation.

“Scientists have unearthed thousands of fossil specimens representing members of the human family. A great number of these cannot be assigned to the modern human species, Homo sapiens. Most of these specimens have been well dated, often by means of radiometric techniques. They reveal a well-branched tree, parts of which trace a general evolutionary sequence leading from ape-like forms to modern humans.”
http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/cr ... human.html

The truth is, I can document seventeen fossils that comprise the entire genus Homo fossil record, and of them, but six were complete skulls as found (less lower jaw); the majority of those relics were missing many critical parts, and were reconstructed in the laboratory. So, my question is of evolutionists, where are those thousands of fossil specimens?

One last quote from the National Academy of Science

“Experiments conducted under conditions intended to resemble those present on primitive Earth have resulted in the production of some of the chemical components of proteins, DNA, and RNA. Some of these molecules also have been detected in meteorites from outer space and in interstellar space by astronomers using radiotelescopes. Scientists have concluded that the "building blocks of life" could have been available early in Earth's history.”
http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/cr ... rigin.html

At the International Society for the Study of the Origin of Life (ISSOL) Conference of 1999, the quoted paragraph was completely refuted by the participants including solid evidence the “meteorites” mentioned did not contain any of the required “sugars.” So, again, science crosses the boundary of teleological purpose, by presenting as true facts what is a questionable theory.

You wrote, “What surprises me is how you so easily reject the tactile evidence in support of basic science (like the evolutionary narrative) and yet boldly proclaim a radical thing like panentheism, which has absolutely no evidence in support of it at all. Doesn't that strike you as a bit odd?”

My response is, Rational thought produced the belief of Panentheism, and rabid thoughts produced the theory of evolution, which in essence is not a theory at all, it is a “narrative” of one man’s hallucinated fantasy.

nebula

PS: The Kansas Citizens for Science was fostered by the Topeka Capital Journal news organization, which is owned by Stauffer Communications; Stauffer communications is a subsidiary of Morris Communications that is a media conglomerate. Beside the news business, they own three publishing companies; does anyone want to guess what they do publish as their primary “books?” Yes, science and biology textbooks for the classroom.

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nebula: your post is a string of meaningless gibberish. If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit!

I opted many years ago to distinguish ideas by explicit means in an attempt to step over the mud and go straight for dry ground, and that is what I have done with establishing difference between abstract necessity, and true or real necessity.

You have stated on numerous occasions that you are here not to enlighten or discuss, but to irritate and obfuscate.

Additionally, you are claiming that all philosophy is obfuscatory, and we must adopt your terminology to have any kind of discussion, an obviously absurd position. It's not worth learning and adopting an idiosncryatic position to converse with someone who admittedly does not have the objective of furthering knowledge.

The rest of your post is not even lucid enough to bother refuting.

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SingleDad,

I suppose you refute the argument? Then do so and quit your bitching about people that present notions opposite yours.

nebula

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1) You didn't make an argument. You just strung together a bunch of jargon and slapped your conclusion and a a QED at the end.

2) You've said time and again you're not interested in debate or intellectual discussion. By your own admission every post of yours here is intended only to annoy and irk people.

Remember: I'm not going to bother to refute the meaningless drivel of someone who has repeatedly lied, plagarized, misquoted, and admitted his intellectual insincerity.

Nebbie, you've dug yourself a hole. So deep that your only escape is leave this board. I don't care if you suddently develop interesting arguments. You've wasted enough of everyone's time and amply demonstrated your insincerity. It's no longer worth anyone's time to read any of your posts.

Regardless of what you have to say now, you've used up all of our good will. You're an object of ridicule. I'm just curious how long it will take until you realize that no one here bothers to read anything you post: They skip down to see what cutting remark one of your many enemies here have posted in reply.

[This message has been edited by SingleDad (edited December 31, 2000).]

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SingleDad,

On the contrary, it is most evident that many people are reading my posts. It is also noted that only a handful continually ridicule me, sobeit. The truth is true no matter where you find it.

nebula

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It is also noted that only a handful continually ridicule me, sobeit.

We're doing a good job at it too. But, in all fairness, you don't make it that tough on us.

The truth is true no matter where you find it.

True. And we aren't finding any in your work. Not that you have ever bothered even looking.