<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DChicken:
If the UN did this then there would be no U.N...</font>
Well there is one now... but the U.N. doesn't have to have its current structure for all time.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">...or it would only be a pathetically ineffective UN.</font>
What about WTO? 4 groups do the voting... it is meant to represent all of the countries... do you think that is "effective"? It's effective for the general economic expansion of the largest economies in the world, but it isn't an effective representational democracy.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">One of the reasons those countries have veto power is because if they did not then they would have a few reasons to join.</font>
Well they are members now. I'm talking about the future. If their citizens (hypothetically speaking) want their country to participate fairly in the U.N. then why shouldn't they? The government shouldn't just make decisions for the people for their own good. Or say a majority of the world's population, represented by the other countries of the U.N., decided to boycott the U.N. and get the anti-democratic 5 to be fair? There are some theoretical ways it could happen, though it couldn't happen right now because of the lack of support for this.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Without them most of the world's political power would rest outside the U.N.</font>
Well many of these powerful countries are becoming much considerate of other countries. Maybe in the future they'd participate in the U.N. fairly instead of greedily holding on to their privileged status forever.[/B][/QUOTE]
The United States needs to become a proper democracy. This means that its government needs to ban all outside funding (which is based on the expectation of getting something in return). If it can't get the money from its taxpayers, then it does without it. Then, if the people become less selfish and care about the world, then they might want to play fair - and make their country play by the rules instead of being an outlaw bully. If they give the (democratic) U.N. more power, then it would have more control of the U.S. and the U.S. would be less able to disobey its decisions.