...if there is any theist out there who cares to try offering evidence for the existence of his/her deity without citing the books dedicated to said deity
OR
if there is a theist who can offer evidence for the veracity of their scripture without presupposing the existance of the related deity?
I can't help but word my query flippantly, but rest assured I mean it earnestly.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Loki:
...if there is any theist out there who cares to try offering evidence for the existence of his/her deity without citing the books dedicated to said deity
OR
if there is a theist who can offer evidence for the veracity of their scripture without presupposing the existance of the related deity?
I can't help but word my query flippantly, but rest assured I mean it earnestly.</font>
If I were you I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Freego:
Loki, I try to avoid these discussions because God gives proof to us as individuals, often the proof God gives us would make no sense to anyone else...</font>
Well he's given me no proof. So I'm perfectly right in thinking he doesn't exist. Maybe he doesn't want me to believe in him.
Duck!
Maybe he doesn't want me to believe in him.
Hi Duck,
Have I really not proved my existence to you yet? You can go to my site...whatever...and I've even stopped pretending I'm "Alex" mostly - and gone back to my good ol' given name
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Oh, were you talking about GOD though?
Yeah, apparently he doesn't want you to believe in him - I mean, I'm sure you're right that if he did he'd - show up on your doorstep or write to you. I mean, you would write to me, write? I mean, if you wanted me to know you existed. Or so I would think.
So in fact not only does GOD evidently not exist but neither do a lot of Christian leaders who never bother to write back to me.
What of the ones who say "Do not write to ***me*** though?" If the ones who simply don't write don't exist then what shall we say of those who say "Do NOT write to me?"
Perhaps one might infer they are unfriendly - BUT - I ask myself - is there actually any proof? Or is it just they don't want me to believe they are friendly? Maybe they do write to everyone else.
Anyway so in short Duck I would agree that your conclusions seem entirely reasonable and I have no basis to disbelieve what you say, that God has given you no proof - if you say so.
However if the **** is about to hit the fan and you are standing in front of it because there is no airconditioning (and you got the only fans! Lucky you!!) I would definitely duck! so nothing nasty hits you
Just a friendly warning
Have a nice day, Duck!
(I like exclamation pts btw)
take care
Helen
Hi Duck,
Have I really not proved my existence to you yet? You can go to my site...whatever...and I've even stopped pretending I'm "Alex" mostly - and gone back to my good ol' given name
.Oh, were you talking about GOD though?
Yeah, apparently he doesn't want you to believe in him - I mean, I'm sure you're right that if he did he'd - show up on your doorstep or write to you. I mean, you would write to me, write? I mean, if you wanted me to know you existed. Or so I would think.
So in fact not only does GOD evidently not exist but neither do a lot of Christian leaders who never bother to write back to me.
What of the ones who say "Do not write to ***me*** though?" If the ones who simply don't write don't exist then what shall we say of those who say "Do NOT write to me?"
Perhaps one might infer they are unfriendly - BUT - I ask myself - is there actually any proof? Or is it just they don't want me to believe they are friendly? Maybe they do write to everyone else.
Anyway so in short Duck I would agree that your conclusions seem entirely reasonable and I have no basis to disbelieve what you say, that God has given you no proof - if you say so.
However if the **** is about to hit the fan and you are standing in front of it because there is no airconditioning (and you got the only fans! Lucky you!!) I would definitely duck! so nothing nasty hits you
Just a friendly warning
Have a nice day, Duck!(I like exclamation pts btw
)take care
Helen