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Post by aupmanyav » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:41 am

Babble, of course, is babble. People here, generally do not give much importance to that. Science and archeology are very much interested in first signs of human civilization, which as you rightly said may date back to 30,000 years or more. They are equally interested in life and beliefs of Cro-Magnons, Neanderthals, or Homo Erectus which happened even earlier.

Wiki quotes: Acheulean material is able to broadly place the use of Acheulean techniques within the time from around 1.65 million years ago to about 100,000 years ago. .. The Soanian is an archaeological culture of the Lower Paleolithic (ca. 500,000 to 1250,000 BP) in South Asia, contemporary to the Acheulean. .. Blombos Cave is a cave in a limestone cliff on the Southern Cape coast in South Africa. It is an archaeological site made famous for the recovery of 75,000 year old beads made from Nassarius shells, engraved ochres with abstract designs and c. 80,000 year old bone tools. Etc.

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Post by angelo » Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:49 am

In the North West of my state, W.A In the Kimberly's in fact. They have found rocks showing signs of bacterial life billions of years old.

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Post by Berthold » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:06 am

[quote=""aupmanyav""]The bulls and deer in neanderthal cave paintings, were they objects of worship?[/quote]
Nitpick :wave: : Cro Magnon

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Post by aupmanyav » Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:11 pm

Sorry, burials and projectiles with Neanderthals, possibly songs; but no art. Seems strange, they were using perforated sea-shells.

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Post by Nero's Boot » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:18 pm

[quote=""Lucis""]
aupmanyav;5623630 wrote:Yes, which ones are you talking about? And sources? 'hundreds of thousands years old', please remember that humans have been on earth for just 150,000 years; and did not have much of a civilization in the early days. And what contradicts evolution?
humans have been much longer on earth than orthodox science admits. humans have been on earth for millions of years.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepage ... pe2.htm#a1

[quote=""Tao of Pooh""]Wouldn't that contradict the whole Young Earth thingie?[/quote]

young earth = flat earth. the earth is not young, but it's also not as old as scientists believe. i think it's 2 billion years old, like the hindu scriptures say.[/QUOTE]

So....the Hyborean Age, then?

--or do you favor the idea of the ancient Melnibonean Empire? NB

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Post by angelo » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:38 am

The earth is at least 4.5 billion years old. Evidence of bacterial life has been found to date back at least to 3 billion years. That means that life seems to appear as soon as is possible if the conditions allow. Cro magnon was not yet self aware therefore they left very little evidence of stone art or eloborate burial rites. That came much later when self aware homo sapiens first appeared.

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Post by aupmanyav » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:15 pm

[quote=""angelo atheist""]Cro magnon was not yet self aware therefore they left very little evidence of stone art or eloborate burial rites. That came much later when self aware homo sapiens first appeared.[/quote]Surviving Cro-Magnon artifacts include huts, cave paintings, carvings and antler-tipped spears. The remains of tools suggest that they knew how to make woven clothing. They had huts, constructed of rocks, clay, bones, branches, and animal hide/fur. These early humans used manganese and iron oxides to paint pictures and may have created the first calendar around 15,000 years ago.

A 2003 study on Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal mitochondrial DNA, published by an Italo-Spanish research team led by David Caramelli, concluded that Neanderthals were far outside the modern human range, while Cro-Magnons were well in the average of modern Europeans. mtDNA retrieved from two Cro-Magnon specimens was identified as Haplogroup N. Haplogroup N is found among modern populations of the Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia, and its descendant haplogroups are found among modern Eurasian and Native American populations. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon]

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Post by Lucis » Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:56 pm

[quote=""Nero's Boot""]So....the Hyborean Age, then?[/quote]

the 'hyperboreans' (early human prototypes) lived 150 million years ago in the 'imperishable land' (north and south poles). they left no fossils because of their bodies were astral.

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Post by Joni-san » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:00 pm

The Hyperboreans were dicks. Did you read what they did to Conan's buddies?

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Post by pescifish » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:01 am

Mod note:

Since the OP did not provide any real direction for discussion related to Non-Abrahamic Religion & Philosophy, it was not surprising that this thread was essentially derailed away from any hope of NARP topics in the second post.
Potoooooooo, I'd like to remind you of our request that you quote relevant text and add some commentary to direct discussion appropriate to NARP or whatever forum you select to post your articles.

As for the derail discussion of age of earth and such, it is not a NARP topic. In this case, the derail also included unsubstantiated claims and commentary, which makes it difficult to continue serious discussion. Because of this, I am closing this thread at this time instead of a possible move to another forum. If anyone should wish to continue, please feel free to open a thread in a more appropriate forum on this board. Should you choose to do so, please formulate a OP with solid points of discussion with evidence to back any stated claims.

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